tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post3462094807044122269..comments2023-10-12T16:08:14.017+01:00Comments on Lashings of Ginger Beer Time Blog: My Gender IdentityAnnalyticahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06402598855200483948noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-65116250187912595742014-04-08T13:02:08.556+01:002014-04-08T13:02:08.556+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-48877388390285830902014-03-18T08:15:42.494+00:002014-03-18T08:15:42.494+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Gextonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12664625916235336440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-76303769753724422202014-01-13T07:52:05.420+00:002014-01-13T07:52:05.420+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.agen sbobethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12296295566031775705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-89049935896566594172013-12-11T10:38:25.250+00:002013-12-11T10:38:25.250+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-42929845866847390622013-12-04T12:02:15.993+00:002013-12-04T12:02:15.993+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.2009 DREAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15481856703447919606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-69291528787655372862011-06-03T21:55:42.681+01:002011-06-03T21:55:42.681+01:00Actually, this post does mostly focus on your expe...Actually, this post does mostly focus on your experiences in the world today, and I've just chosen to zero in on the speculative part in my comment. Sorry about that - you're absolutely right that the theoretical questions about what gender would be in an imaginary utopia aren't nearly as important as the reality of living with your gender identity.Annalyticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06402598855200483948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-82268567090218581092011-06-03T17:37:57.030+01:002011-06-03T17:37:57.030+01:00Thank you Annalytica - I'm a fan of that Trana...Thank you Annalytica - I'm a fan of that Tranarchism post, and am very grateful to you for linking to it.<br /><br />I certainly don't feel that any of the issues I raise are likely to invalidate Dan's vision for the future. To be honest, I'm not really heavily invested in any particular "idea of a gender-oppression-free utopia" - my last paragraph was really just a suggestion that it's possible - and necessary, in fact - to factor the existence of gender identity into any vision of a future free from gendered oppression. This is in direct counterpoint to a certain trope I find rather problematic, which goes something like: "In a post-patriarchal future, all this gender identity stuff will be meaningless anyway...". Hmm....<br /><br />In retrospect, I'm a little unsatisfied with the way I ended this post, reflecting on speculative ideas rather than reiterating what my gender identity means to me, and how it helps shape my experiences in the world of *today*. But at some point in the future, I'll write a post on my interactions with privilege and oppression as a trans woman, which ought to focus on my experiences in greater detail :)Sally Outenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16078334205370440231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-86216320381764254262011-06-03T13:43:23.112+01:002011-06-03T13:43:23.112+01:00Thanks for this post. I really enjoyed reading it....Thanks for this post. I really enjoyed reading it. Although as a cis person I can never fully understand what it's like to be trans, I think this gets me a bit closer to understanding.<br /><br /><a href="http://tranarchism.com/2011/04/08/nelly-zine-preview-self-explanatory/" rel="nofollow">This post</a> about gay femme trans men is also a really powerful account of having a gender identity distinct from both assigned biological sex and performed femininity/masculinity.<br /><br />I'm curious as to how your idea of a gender-oppression-free utopia would compare to Dan's:<br /><br />"The end point, I wish, would be a body of ‘those who once were men’, free to express and identify as they choose, retaining or rejecting what is chosen, but feeling not pressured to any one thing or role, with a body of supporting literature, philosophy and an organisational infrastructure to disseminate ideas, to genuinely enable a movement neither for women or men, but ‘people’ (Which somehow does actualise the vision of a neutral ‘humanity’, which isn’t implicitly masculine)."Annalyticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06402598855200483948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-24357081995225267792011-06-03T13:25:43.935+01:002011-06-03T13:25:43.935+01:00"The thing I'm struggling to conceptualis..."The thing I'm struggling to conceptualise about this distant utopian future - and I'm aware that I have cis privilege in spades, when I say this, so I'm sorry if my arse is showing - is what we will hang gender identity on, in a world without biological sex or gendered behavioural expectations. What will distinguish our gender identity from just our plain, well, identity?"<br /><br />This is a good question, and I've intentionally framed my last paragraph in speculative terms because I don't know the answer.<br /><br />If, as I wonder might be the case, during a person's development, that person's gender identity spends its time looking for hooks to hold onto, then maybe, in a world without biological sex, gender identity would just find itself floating. Maybe, tenacious as I've found it to be, it would find *new* cues to attach itself to - maybe we'd develop a diversity of new, non-hierarchical groups with gender identity at their core; maybe it would attach itself to existing categories. Eek, maybe you'd still experience yourself as a geek, but inherently, inextricably so (if that isn't already the case, of course!).... :PSally Outenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16078334205370440231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828823099864315938.post-10899994189452968782011-06-03T12:21:20.639+01:002011-06-03T12:21:20.639+01:00Many thanks for this thought-provoking post, Sally...Many thanks for this thought-provoking post, Sally. I'd be really interested to hear the perspective of a genderqueer or otherwise non-binarily-gendered person on this; often certain kinds of radical feminists would accuse them of "playing with" concepts that they should be rejecting (ie gender), but I suspect it is a <strong>lot</strong> more complicated than that..<br /><br />The thing I'm struggling to conceptualise about this distant utopian future - and I'm aware that I have cis privilege in spades, when I say this, so I'm sorry if my arse is showing - is what we will hang gender identity on, in a world without biological sex or gendered behavioural expectations. What will distinguish our <strong>gender</strong> identity from just our plain, well, identity?<br /><br />Perhaps, though, it is my cis privilege - which means I experience my gender identity as a comfortable 'fit', rather than a dysphoria - which means I can't properly conceptualise the way that my being a woman is any different from my being a geek or a leftie.Sebastiennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14049602363105805106noreply@blogger.com